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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Coast2Coast on July 16, 2011, 07:21 pm
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We had a little false start a couple of weeks ago, my apologies to the few that got their orders cancelled.
We are currently shipping out everything within 24 hours, excluding Sunday.
Orders received by 1:00pm Eastern/12:00pm Central/10:00am Pacific can be shipped the same day in most cases.
For those that haven't shopped Coast2Coast yet.
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/12530
Please leave your reviews of your experience with us in this topic.
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got no complaints about coast2coast. herb arrived in 3 days. good tasting smoke and im def high after that little nug I just smoked.
not feeling a heavy body stone from this one, very energetic
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Anyone have any experience with him? I bought an ounce of weed, he said it would be here monday or tuesday and its still not here. He has been ignoring all my messages even though it says he has been logging in
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Same story here bro, Ordered Sat early AM, he said he could ship it out Sat if I transfer the BTC that morning, so I did. It's wednesday and still nothing...I really hope this isn't my first rip off. He does get great reviews, so I'm hoping my patience will pay off and it'll arrive tomorrow.
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I purchased from Coast2Coast before and it's great stuff and It took about avg for shipping (2 Business days). No complaints. Just great weed no BS.
Patience is a virtue, but since we are all pursuing our own vices via SR, it's no surprise people are antsy.
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On second thought, his page and the way he works gives off no suspicion so let's wait a little before we jump the "scam" wagon. Like I said, I'm in the same situation and I'm hoping it'll work out and I have trust it will.
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I'm a pessimist so here's my thinking...
it looks like he did a couple small sells to get good reviews, then did the massive out-of-escrow sale to scam a bunch of people with 1 ounce buys :( that will be my 1st and only time ever doing an out-of-escrow buy...too bad that was all the bitcoins I had :(
Also, in a private message with me, 1 day BEFORE he listed the out of escrow listing, he told me it would be $300/oz...then the next day he posts the listing at only $250/ounce...that seems super suspicious to me
erko78 is he replying to any of your messages on SR?
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I'm honestly just hoping it isn't a scam, he has a decent amount of reviews, but then again he could have pulled that stunt you just described. I also noticed the next day he dropped the price to $200 for an OZ. I thought it was kind of shitty, making me pay $250 then dropping it $50 the next day. I really really really hope it's not a scam, like that one guy said patience is a virtue and I'll be waiting patiently tomorrow or friday for it to arrive, anything past that and I'm afraid our suspicions will come true.
And I only messaged him once, after I saw your post, but that was hours ago and he hasn't replied but then again it was only hours ago so I guess we will see, ain't much we can do considering it was out of escrow...!
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Well we can still give him negative feedback from the 0.01 bitcoin auction we bought right??
He dropped it to $200? That even makes me more suspicious of a scam...trying to get as much $$$ as possible from as many buyers as possible before disappearing forever
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Just registered here to talk about this seller then saw this thread. I'm in the same boat as you guys. On the 'out of escrow' listing he said most order shipped saturday morning will be there Monday. So I sent payment out of escrow friday night, and I'm sure he received them. I msged him and he said he doesn't want to ship out saturday because it would sit at the post office. So I said OK, and he would give me an update on monday. Sent him two msgs so far and no response. It's thursday now and I'm starting to worry, I hope this guy didn't flake out on us. He had decent reviews and good communications before all this so I guess we'll see.
btw, my mailman just came and no package. I'll wait for it tomorrow to but I'm starting to believe this guy just ran off with our money.
Anything we can do?
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coast2coast hasn't logged onto SR in over 24 hours...almost 48 hours actually. I think he ran off :( Confirmed at least 4 people robbed so thats $1,000 minimum he stole...wish I had his address to inform LE about him
This was my 1st SR purchase, probably my last...how do I leave him negative feedback? Do I click finalize then it lets me, or do I click resolve and then I can do feedback?
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Well with more people coming in here, my optimism is slowly fading...I've ordered a handful of times from SR and it sucks if this is the guy I'm getting fucked by. He had such a good price for his OZ, I had to know it was too good to be true. I'm also waiting till tomorrow, since I'm hoping all he did was lie about when he shipped which would make sense, but if it ain't here tomorrow, then fuck it. I just don't understand, you think he would list his OZ too as a regular so he could rip as many people off as possible, but he hasn't, so who knows, I think I'm already counting this as a loss...but I hope not. I hope I eat my words but this is def suspicious.
Can any admin or anyone help us out? What can we do? Anything we can get back?
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Also bolelorn I wouldn't lose hope in SR yet, even though it looks like both of us are getting ripped off, I'll wait till after tomorrow to leave bad feedback. Just finalize and it'll give you an option to leave feedback bolelorn. Btw bolelorn, greenco, puffbuddy, and ggc, are all people that are reliable and people have used, give them a try I guarantee you won't get ripped off, it sucks they are pricey, and we thought we had a good deal, but wow man, $300 isn't just throw away money, this sucks. What a fucking douchebag man
Btw .. mailman just came...nothing :-/
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bolelorn, just deal with the other outstanding sellers. I've had very good experiences with 420med2u and I'm sure it'll be the same with the sellers erko78 listed.
Gonna take this as a lost (mailman came and nothing) and yeah $300 isn't throw away money. I sent him a little larger amount :-\.
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Fuck it, me too. My first loss in 13 orders. I'd ordered from him previously, was good. His business seemed so "clean" that I released the btcs early on shipping with my previous c2c order just to help a brother out. And he still fucked me, apparently. I hope I have a reason tomorrow to apologize, but I doubt it at this point.
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guys...I had communications with c2c as well..and almost did an out of escrow deal but did not...with that being said...lets wait a few more days.
It is weed and illegal...could have been siezed, c2c could have got into some trouble with his provider...etc...remember...this is not like going to Macy's..this stuff is illegal...and shit happens.
I agree, it is not looking good...but hopefully c2c will log in and put everyone to ease...I hope so for you all.
Hope it is all a misunderstanding.
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Another bad sign...this was his FIRST listing for OVER 7g of weed. So a 1 ounce listing is out of the norm for him.
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yep it fucking sucks, no replies from him, no communication...this really fucking sucks. Sorry to hear you lost even more than I did...after tomorrow I can comfortably say that coast2coast is a scammer...
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i used my .1btc feedback opportunity to leave a warning for others, he still has a couple of regular listings up. Any great vendors out there want to strike a one-time hot deal for this poor scammed bunch? i'm sure your kind spirit would be rewarded with some repeat business.
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guys...I had communications with c2c as well..and almost did an out of escrow deal but did not...with that being said...lets wait a few more days.
It is weed and illegal...could have been siezed, c2c could have got into some trouble with his provider...etc...remember...this is not like going to Macy's..this stuff is illegal...and shit happens.
I agree, it is not looking good...but hopefully c2c will log in and put everyone to ease...I hope so for you all.
Hope it is all a misunderstanding.
I'm in this camp. When my package didn't show up I messaged him and he responded:
Getting worried at this point. If it doesn't show up monday then I'll refund/resend your choice. Problem with DCN is it almost never gets scanned until it is processed through destination. I see no activity on it. I don't normally give the dcn but here it is:
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As for the QP, sure, no problem.
Thanks for your patience,
C2C
The DCN hadn't registered in the system, so I pointed out that it is usually scanned at the origin city as well as the destination city. He replied:
They don't scan it from where I send it from on certain days. It depends on which truck picks it up or something like that as far as I can tell. Today is the moment of truth for me. If it doesn't show out for delivery today I will get that out again asap.
If he is a scammer, I'm not sure why he would even return my messages. It's possible the packages could have been intercepted. Or, he could have just been stalling to get in as many orders as possible before being called out. Really hoping the former, or I lost $560. :(
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SR says he hasn't logged on in over 48 hours now...I hope this scumbag got busted by LE
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Well damn...saw this..after not getting anything from him today...ill be concerned tomorrow/saturday...but damn that sucks...he got me for $450
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Exactly. I'm hoping I will come on here tomorrow and say "I'm sorry I was wrong" but I highly doubt it. This is I'd say my 7th or so order and he'll be my first ''scammer''. It really fucking sucks, especially with the economy now I can't be throwing away $300 like it was nothing. In case you can't tell, my feedback comment is the one with the ''FUCK YOU scumbag" because that is exactly what he is.
Also another note of suspicion, his listings are completely gone...
Fuck, wish an admin could tell us if we can do anything about it?
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Well I'm just basing it off of miss it and the other guy, just you TWO alone he made it out with over $1000, not including me or the other guys in here...so if he scammed us, he def made out with some good money.
Like that one poster said, I'm just hoping I don't expect it to happen but any vendor here reading this, if you'd love to give a bunch of scammed guys a good deal, I'd def do repeat business just based on that. Probably won't happen but it's worth a try.
So far NOT ONE guy has come in here and said he'd received an OZ or anything since coast2coasts ''sale''...this doesn't look like good news to us guys to be honest :(
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Exactly. I'm hoping I will come on here tomorrow and say "I'm sorry I was wrong" but I highly doubt it. This is I'd say my 7th or so order and he'll be my first ''scammer''. It really fucking sucks, especially with the economy now I can't be throwing away $300 like it was nothing. In case you can't tell, my feedback comment is the one with the ''FUCK YOU scumbag" because that is exactly what he is.
Also another note of suspicion, his listings are completely gone...
Fuck, wish an admin could tell us if we can do anything about it?
His listings are pulled because SR automatically remove listings after 48 hrs of inactivity. I wanted to leave the same feedback. Not sure if any admins can help in our situation. If someone has bought from him before, if they still have his address, it'll be helpful if they could post it. Otherwise, I'll be extra careful around SR now since feedback isn't a good enough indication if a person is a scammer or not (maybe under 25 - 30 trans).
I think he decided after getting so many pm's to do out of escrow, he decided to make that listing and include a special to entice us all. It worked. So, FUCK this seller. I highly doubt that he will be back, but I will eat my words if he does.
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So everyone still so jazzed about out of escrow transaction?
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I like it, and I actually recovered 50% of what i lost on a sale through Out Of Escrow, so it helped me, personally!
(the 50% being what based off what i bought it for and than sold it for!)
I am a vendor over there. I have right around 30 ratings...It does suck though its kind of hard to base someone off of low transactions without a definitive way to find clones...but thats being anonymous right,heh!
^hey nomad bloodbath!
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Waiting on mail today!
Maybe, hopefully, he isnt scam!
Anyone else have any communication or get a package from C2C???
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Got me too for 80...I have faith but it isn't looking good. If nothing else you would think he would at least respond. To us...
Not cool and the reason SR could get a bad name real quick.
Way to fuck up a good thing dude...
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mailman came today...NOTHING! Coast2Coast last seen - 3 days ago. That's what his SR account says. Today pretty much confirms he's a scammer...well we all got fucked and really cant do much about it...
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I confirm too, no mail today from him.
SCAMMED :'( :-[ >:( :(
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Its saturday, nothing....Decided to go ahead and rate his transaction for Out Of Escrow as a 1.
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guys...I had communications with c2c as well..and almost did an out of escrow deal but did not...with that being said...lets wait a few more days.
It is weed and illegal...could have been siezed, c2c could have got into some trouble with his provider...etc...remember...this is not like going to Macy's..this stuff is illegal...and shit happens.
I agree, it is not looking good...but hopefully c2c will log in and put everyone to ease...I hope so for you all.
Hope it is all a misunderstanding.
I'm in this camp. When my package didn't show up I messaged him and he responded:
Getting worried at this point. If it doesn't show up monday then I'll refund/resend your choice. Problem with DCN is it almost never gets scanned until it is processed through destination. I see no activity on it. I don't normally give the dcn but here it is:
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As for the QP, sure, no problem.
Thanks for your patience,
C2C
The DCN hadn't registered in the system, so I pointed out that it is usually scanned at the origin city as well as the destination city. He replied:
They don't scan it from where I send it from on certain days. It depends on which truck picks it up or something like that as far as I can tell. Today is the moment of truth for me. If it doesn't show out for delivery today I will get that out again asap.
If he is a scammer, I'm not sure why he would even return my messages. It's possible the packages could have been intercepted. Or, he could have just been stalling to get in as many orders as possible before being called out. Really hoping the former, or I lost $560. :(
Don't post your fuckin DCN on the forums....easily get your ass in handcuffs that way. With I nice trip to your local county jail being the first stop.
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I should have known better....what a sucker. How many times I've seen Nomad and others say "escrow escrow escrow" and I still thought I was helping a trusted guy get through a tough patch. I get small consolation from knowing that I gave him all my bitcoins and they're now only worth about half as much as when I sent them....so I'm convincing myself that I only lost half as much as i did (and if he still has them he only stole half as much as he thought he had!)
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SWIM purchased a quarter oz from Coast2Coast about two weeks ago...the product was legit. Triple sealed too. He was always quick when responding to messages for me. It's only been three days, I'd give him a chance to respond.
lmao... you think you can just come to the forums under a totally newb name and say everything worked out for you and anyone is gonna believe you and purchase an order from you again.....troll elsewhere.
There is nothing but scammed posts in this thread.
Coast 2 Coast consider yourself banned from SILK ROAD.
Do Not Make an Order with coast2coast anyone!
Let me talk to Silk Road about banning your vending account.
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SWIM purchased a quarter oz from Coast2Coast about two weeks ago...the product was legit. Triple sealed too. He was always quick when responding to messages for me. It's only been three days, I'd give him a chance to respond.
A) Very reassuring with your high post count.
B)Why do people insist on using "SWIM"? Has this ever helped anyone anywhere? Seems like a mass conspiracy to annoy the shit out of me :P
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Yeah fucking ban coast2coast if possible. Be very careful when you do out of escrow transactions, prime example here.
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Man sorry to hear about everyone's luck. If it wasn't for this thread I could have been next. I bought 3 grams of AK from the guy and had no problems but had to buy them one by one which helped inflate his rating.
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Steps have been taken...what steps not exactly sure ATM.
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hmm sounds interesting, would be nice if we somehow got compensated for gettin scammed but i doubt that :( lol
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Also scammed. First purchase here. Not a good start. Hopefully not everyone is like this...?
We also deserve at least a partial refund...
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tiger, it's my first loss in 13 buys so this is not the norm. as far as "deserving" a refund, i'm afraid none of us do. who do you think has your coins, sr? coast2coast is probably spending them right now under a different name. i've learned my lesson about escrow, hope you have too- but i agree this isn't a nice welcome for you.
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hmm sounds interesting, would be nice if we somehow got compensated for gettin scammed but i doubt that :( lol
Id certainly be happy with a 25%-50% reinbursment from SR, however I dont believe its their responsibility.
(Or maybe even a fee waiver for large transactions)
I understand these things happen as I run 2 forums and a vending site myself. So its sad when it happens, but the there is ALWAYS the chance of scams anywhere you go, unfortunately.
BUT...I dont expect anything to happen, we were scammed, sucks ass, but move one and lets help prevent people like these!!
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I've been lurking for months with special attention to how I might make myself not look like a scammer with things like this going on.
I think that inflating feedback is an obvious ploy. If you see someone with multiple feedbacks for the same item, all in a row... As someone mentioned above, being forced to buy 1g at a time for a 3g order so that feedback can/must be left for 3 different orders... Establish a written policy for SR in the BUYER'S GUIDE that mentions this technique and how noobs can identify it. Also, that buyers who experience such a multi-purchase request deliberately leave copy/pasted feedback such that we can see what is going on. Even if the transaction is smooth, this is still an indicator of someone who will soon run a scam.
Although it doesn't apply to the product(s) I would like to sell, a sudden jump in quantity sold is a strong indicator. Again, time is the buyer's ally. If the seller shows a history of 1/8 and 1/4 sales, then suddenly has a QP up at a REALLY good price.... Maybe wait for a review to come back on that, eh? If a bunch of people start buying that obvious bad idea all at once......... If you draw it out a bit, then it becomes not worth it for a scammer. He'll have to keep shipping product when he originally planned to take the money and run. Good for the buyer, but, again, makes it hard on the legit sellers trying to get established an/or grow...
Scammers make it very hard for a new guy to get started. Especially one who goes out of his way to look good, because now he might look 'too' good.... Very frustrating. I still haven't bought my SR account because I'm broke and need to earn back my investment. Already hard to do if I'm selling in a low-volume, non-drug category, much less with all this suspicion... About the only draw to buying things off of SR that are perfectly legal, would be to save money; to be able to buy said items cheaper than anywhere else. Will that cast a shadow of doubt onto me? It certainly will, but what else do I have?
I want to be able to tell people about techniques like this if SR doesn't. I already submitted a good idea for identifying shipment tampering and they did not post it anywhere...
...and that is: "pgp -ea foo.jpg" is a picture of the box. Cut, Paste, Send. Receiver can then un pgp the thing, name it whatever.jpg and view the picture. Encrypted, uses the SR messaging system not email... If it has foreign tape, more layers, slits covered by non-transparent tape that wasn't on the box in the original image... You get the idea. Being able to see what the box looked like before it was sent gives you a damn good idea of what has or hasn't happened to it in transit. Be kind enough to delete the image message asap so it doesn't hog a ton of space in the SR database.
Also, if you suddenly have a new delivery person who tries to get you to say it's yours, or make you sign for something you shouldn't have to sign... You get the idea.... Know your mail (wo)man.
Also, truecrypt is too easy NOT to use. If you aren't using it (or something similar), you're just damn lazy (has nothing to do with pgp/gpg). A triple-cascade encrypted hard drive is invincible without the PW.
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I've been lurking for months with special attention to how I might make myself not look like a scammer with things like this going on.
I think that inflating feedback is an obvious ploy. If you see someone with multiple feedbacks for the same item, all in a row... As someone mentioned above, being forced to buy 1g at a time for a 3g order so that feedback can/must be left for 3 different orders... Establish a written policy for SR in the BUYER'S GUIDE that mentions this technique and how noobs can identify it. Also, that buyers who experience such a multi-purchase request deliberately leave copy/pasted feedback such that we can see what is going on. Even if the transaction is smooth, this is still an indicator of someone who will soon run a scam.
Although it doesn't apply to the product(s) I would like to sell, a sudden jump in quantity sold is a strong indicator. Again, time is the buyer's ally. If the seller shows a history of 1/8 and 1/4 sales, then suddenly has a QP up at a REALLY good price.... Maybe wait for a review to come back on that, eh? If a bunch of people start buying that obvious bad idea all at once......... If you draw it out a bit, then it becomes not worth it for a scammer. He'll have to keep shipping product when he originally planned to take the money and run. Good for the buyer, but, again, makes it hard on the legit sellers trying to get established an/or grow...
Scammers make it very hard for a new guy to get started. Especially one who goes out of his way to look good, because now he might look 'too' good.... Very frustrating. I still haven't bought my SR account because I'm broke and need to earn back my investment. Already hard to do if I'm selling in a low-volume, non-drug category, much less with all this suspicion... About the only draw to buying things off of SR that are perfectly legal, would be to save money; to be able to buy said items cheaper than anywhere else. Will that cast a shadow of doubt onto me? It certainly will, but what else do I have?
I want to be able to tell people about techniques like this if SR doesn't. I already submitted a good idea for identifying shipment tampering and they did not post it anywhere...
...and that is: "pgp -ea foo.jpg" is a picture of the box. Cut, Paste, Send. Receiver can then un pgp the thing, name it whatever.jpg and view the picture. Encrypted, uses the SR messaging system not email... If it has foreign tape, more layers, slits covered by non-transparent tape that wasn't on the box in the original image... You get the idea. Being able to see what the box looked like before it was sent gives you a damn good idea of what has or hasn't happened to it in transit. Be kind enough to delete the image message asap so it doesn't hog a ton of space in the SR database.
Also, if you suddenly have a new delivery person who tries to get you to say it's yours, or make you sign for something you shouldn't have to sign... You get the idea.... Know your mail (wo)man.
Also, truecrypt is too easy NOT to use. If you aren't using it (or something similar), you're just damn lazy (has nothing to do with pgp/gpg). A triple-cascade encrypted hard drive is invincible without the PW.
Very good info pay attention forum members! :D
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At the sake of seeming redundant.... I think it's important.
Use very thin tape that is printed on. Not the regular clear stuff. Generic security/tamper tape is at the office supply store. If the LEs open the box, there is absolutely no way they can line that shit back up perfectly on every opened part of the box. It's kinda like those tamper-proof labels they put on computers to make sure you never opened it. If you package it with an intent to display tampering, they won't be able to pull off a controlled delivery on your customers unless your customers are extra stupid.
Also consider that they may not open the box in a conventional fashion. Check that large professional-looking shipping label for depressions underneath. Were it removed, you could cut a bigass hole in that box, save the cut-out, print a duplicate label a bit larger, and then stick it back together and no one could see it, eh? Sellers should place the label in such a way that this is really effing hard to do this, and the buyer should check for it. This is impossible with bubble mailers... But with a bubble mailer, still use the security tape so the presence of anything else is easier to detect.
Send your buyers an encrypted "gpg -ea filename.jpg" of the package. Maybe from a few angles. If the customer doesn't bother to educate themselves on how to view these... Well, that's their gamble to be lazy. It isn't hard to figure out, so there really is no excuse. As a seller, you've done your part and your ass is covered. If they don't use it to help themselves... You can lead a horse to water...
The buyer is the one at risk. If the seller tries to help, but the buyer rejects that help... It is no one's fault but the buyer.
A fake name offers you no protection, legally. All it does is raise an eyebrow which may bring scrutiny upon your package that otherwise would have been delivered without a hitch.
Don't buy huge quantities. Just don't do it. Boxes are more attention-getting, and they are easier to invade without leaving evidence of the invasion. Small quantities offer the seller more profit, and the buyer less scrutiny of the delivered package.
If you absolutely insist on a fake name, get on a mailing list with that fake name. If a bunch of real advertising mail comes under that name before your package does.... It makes it look not fake.
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This guy seems to have dropped off the radar, if anyone sees a listing from him please PM me and I wil;l re sticky this thread for everyone to see what a bad idea it is to order from him.
Last 7 feedbacks:
1 of 5 This should be a lesson to anybody else looking to purchase out of escrow. I got scammed by coast2coast, like many others. item 2 days
1 of 5 SCAMMER - SCAMMER - DO NOT BUY FROM HIM - SCAMMER - SCAMMER item 5 days
1 of 5 SCAM!
SCAM!
STAY AWAY!!!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=975.0 item 5 days
1 of 5 FUCK this scammer. Read other feedbacks. item 5 days
1 of 5 SCAM. He never sent product and is not replying to messages, he hasn't logged on in 3 days also. He is a THIEF item 6 days
1 of 5 Ordered an OZ for $250, he said to transfer the money so he could ship out Sat. I did. Next day he changed the price of the OZ to $200. It's thursday now, no product, no communication. FUCK YOU scumbag. item 7 days
1 of 5 CAUTION!! READ THIS FORUM THREAD: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=975.0 item 7 days